Inside Marketing with MarketSurge

Welcome to Inside Marketing
With Market Surge.

Your front row seat to the
boldest ideas and smartest

strategies in the marketing game.

Your host is Reed Hansen, chief
Growth Officer at Market Surge.

Reed Hansen, MarketSurge: Hello
and welcome back to Inside

Marketing with Market Surge.

Today I am joined by Andy Schroepfer.

Andy is a seasoned financial strategist
whose career began on Wall Street first

building the world's inaugural data center
database at Piper Jaffrey, then honing

his analytical chops as a stock analyst
at Goldman Sachs and managing Hunt.

Hedge fund portfolios Before he pivoted
into entrepreneurial ventures, he went

on to found tier one research, create
Rackspace's app matcher platform for

matching small businesses with the
right SaaS tools, and ultimately coined

the term immersive wealth experience
as the father of financial fitness.

Andy also launched Stocks on Bikes, an
AI driven financial fitness machine that

elegance elegantly translates stock market
data into customized workouts, making,

investing both engaging and actionable.

As a bestselling author and
speaker, he empowers advisors

and their clients to build.

To achieve lasting wealth.

And today as the Chief
Strategy officer@hosting.com

Inc, he leverages his unique blend
of data-driven insight and immersive

client experiences to shape the next
generation of FinTech innovation.

Welcome to the show, Andy.

Andy Schroepfer: Thanks so much, Reed.

It's a.

Reed Hansen, MarketSurge: Yeah.

Well, so first I wanna ask, you know,
you were on Wall Street, you worked for

these large banks you know, in, in some
pretty fast-paced environments from a

financial and technology standpoint.

What was the moment where you
decided to pivot and away from the

banks and build your own ventures,
and particularly the ones that

are focused on financial literacy?

Andy Schroepfer: Great question.

So I grew up small story of going to a
library back when that was your way to

get all the information in the world.

And there was a book that I checked
out before Glassdoor even had thought

of being existing in existence.

And it had the top a hundred
companies to work for, and it was

ranked on two different pillars.

One was, compensation and the
other was employee satisfaction.

And in the top five for
both was Goldman Sachs.

And so, as a young book, checking
out an important book that would

forever change my career goal was
I wanna work at Goldman Sachs.

So when I got the chance to
work at Goldman Sachs, I had to

figure out what is gonna be next.

It wasn't that clear.

It was so exciting to go get
that opportunity at such an

early point in my career.

But literally the pace and
the greed and the chase of.

Something that someone
else has is palpable.

It's real, it's necessary in an
economy of capitalism, but it's ugly.

And there's so much goodness that can
come from wealth that I'm glad that

on my next 25 years of my career,
I'm not after chasing the next

yacht for someone else or myself.

Chasing what is the finite
amount of wealth that I want

out of this infinite economy?

And if everyone can look at financial
wellness in those terms, it really is

a beautiful pursuit of I know I wanna
accomplish this and that is a finite

amount that I can manage toward and
build toward and have goals toward.

And daily strive to be that person that
can sustain that but then the infinite.

Economy around us that we continue to
pursue and live in with AI and whatnot.

So stock charts turned into workouts.

That's what I see on every
treadmill and every bike these days.

Financial fitness.

Reed Hansen, MarketSurge: Fantastic.

Well so you, you've coined a term you
know, I've seen it in a few places.

Immersive wealth experience for advisors.

And can you tell us about what
that looks like in practice and how

that might be a little different, a
different kind of financial planning?

Andy Schroepfer: great question.

If you've ever looked at a stock or
your statement and you get excited

or sad, that emotion is energy that
you're conveying out of your body in

some capacity, if people around you,
they will feel that energy in some way.

So to say that money doesn't
have energy in and of itself.

Is just patently false.

So I took that to a materially,
several leaps forward.

So I call it watts are currency.

By Watts, our

Reed Hansen, MarketSurge: Hmm.

Andy Schroepfer: it's meaning just like
oil comes out of the ground, becomes gas,

and oil has a price per gallon of oil.

And it goes into your car at a price
per gallon that you end up consuming.

The same thing with your body.

We go and get a good night's sleep.

We have good nutrition, we have good
training habits to be more and more

fit, hopefully every day to fight aging.

And if we can do that, our body wakes
up with a whole bunch of energy.

people choose to do physical
labor, and hence they make more

per hour for their physical labor
if they treat their body well.

thing with a group of people.

Whether your company has 50,000 employees,
2 million employees, or Walmart,

whatever, a million plus that they have,
or whether you're a one person show.

You wake up with an amount of being
able to give with your brain and

your physicalness of being able
to deliver that to the world,

then stocks are the same thing.

So as you see a stock like Palantir
today, it's at a over 400 billion

in market cap today, and that's
up almost 10 x from a year ago.

It's insane how fast the stock has gone
up, it's gone up not straight line.

This stock literally did go down
50% on the tariff UNK or whatever

word is the right choice, that the
history historian will describe it as.

This stock, every time it goes up,
needs to take a break so someone

can sell and reap the profits from
that, and someone else comes in

that hadn't heard of Palantir.

There may be people listening to this
that still haven't heard of Palantir yet.

It's like hearing about Nvidia in
2023 when I was on a treadmill.

all this buildup of the concept of
Watson's currency, here is the story read.

So I'm on a treadmill, finished
a workout in fall of 2023.

Nvidia was one of my
stocks in my portfolio.

Hopefully it was in yours and
all the listeners, and if not

paler is gonna do the same thing.

In this case.

The year to date performance
of the stock, as I'm looking

at it on my iPhone was up 235%.

And I said, gosh, that's great.

What should I do about it now?

Anyway in the middle of that
process, I also said, well, how

high does this treadmill go?

And the treadmill ended up going
up to 25 degrees of incline.

said, wait, wait, wait.

Simple math says 10% of the year
to date incline equals one degree

of incline on the treadmill.

So at 23 and a half degrees of incline,
I'm going 235% year to date return.

So I took off my AirPods with a
big smile and my map geeking out

and said to the person next to
me, I go, I'm doing the Nvidia.

looks over at me and
says, what's an Nvidia?

And I said, well, we should start there,
but I'm doing the year to date increase of

it by going this much of an ink implant.

And his response was,
how fast does Nvidia go?

And I go, that's a really good question.

And as you'll notice, if you
haven't tried going at 23 and a half

degrees of incline on a treadmill.

Going any degrees any miles
per hour is a fast pace.

And that pace

Reed Hansen, MarketSurge: Right.

Andy Schroepfer: in a
math concept called watts.

many watts can I go that determined
at 23 and a half degrees?

How many watts could I go?

And the answer at that point
after a workout was three miles

per hour for a few seconds.

That was all I had left in my tank.

What did the stock end up doing?

Well, it's not that it crashed, it
did take a break after going up.

235% ended the year in those final
two months, just treading water.

So the stock does have energy.

It does get exhausted when it tries to go
at 23 and a half miles per hour, 23 and a

half degrees at a couple miles per hour.

It needed to cool off and
come down a little bit.

Have the new year start where you're
at, zero year to date in January,

and then it proceeded to do another.

Two 35% in 2024, and now it's still
doing more in 2025, but the concept of

finding out what is the walked equivalent
of a stock at any one point in time is

where I'll take a breath and then I can
jump back in, but feel free to redirect

before I continue to consume without.

Reed Hansen, MarketSurge:
No, this is great.

Keep going.

Keep going.

I love this.

Yeah.

Andy Schroepfer: Well, what I found
from all of my years, and many of your

listeners may have been looking at stock
charts for part of their portfolio.

It might be their profession as well.

If it's been part of your profession,
you'll know that a stock is born to go up

10% in one year, it used to be 5%, then
it was 7%, and now the Mag seven and what

I call manata Microsoft Apple, and they.

Nvidia, Amazon na, meta alphabet MA T for
Tesla and Broadcom, which ticker is A BGO.

Manta should be the new Mag seven
said it many times, but I'm saying it

here on your show re so every stock is
now trying to go up 10% in 252 days.

That's how many trading days
there are in an average year.

But what if a stock can
go up 10% in 25 days?

What if it can go up 25, 10% in a week?

Like Palantir is doing
today, it's up over 10%.

That is an exhaustion point when
you're trying to look at your

stock chart as if it's a workout.

going up 10% in one day.

So if every stock is after that and Watts
are currency, how many 10% days can I do?

It won't go up 10% tomorrow.

It won't.

It just mathematically won't.

Hyster looking at stocks, it won't
go up another 10% tomorrow, but.

It did it today.

So as I build workouts, you the
chance to feel with your body what the

stock is feeling from trading volume.

'cause if the richest three people
in the world are all buying Palantir

and they have no more money,
'cause they bought it all 50% ago,

no more money to go re rebuy it.

So the stock has gravity.

Stock starts to sink down
just like on our treadmill.

We do sprints and then we do recoveries.

We can do a sprint of 10% in one day,
but then we might need to go down

5% the next day so that we can come
back and try to do 10% the third day.

is race sprints and recoveries are
what stock charts are, and I'll

leave you with this point on Watts
Currency, stocks can be on bikes.

If you look at a stock chart, next
time you look at a stock chart.

You'll know that every stock
chart has an open, a close, a

high, and a low from the open.

It goes to either the higher low, that's
the warmup any workout, doesn't matter.

It goes to the low that's most
common on every stock chart.

It goes from the open to the low.

That's your warmup.

Whatever that decline is, that's your
opening your low to the high of that

stock chart is your actual workout.

And between that low and high is
a bunch of sprints and recoveries.

Sprints and recoveries.

You want the sprints to be
more effort than the recovery.

That's what you do in training.

That's what stocks wanna do.

I want to go up 20%, down 10%,
up 30% down 10%, up 50% down 10%.

You'll notice the theme of 10%.

Just like a stock wants to go up 10% in
a year, it's destination, it lives and

breathes the stock price that you look
at coming across the tickers, they're

des, they're seeking 10% from their last
low or 10% down from their last high so

that they can take a break and try again.

Reed Hansen, MarketSurge: Wow.

That's, that's fantastic.

So, okay, so how does this, this manifest?

Is this technology that, that, that plugs
into like a digital treadmill interface?

Or how does, how

Andy Schroepfer: question.

Reed Hansen, MarketSurge: yeah.

Andy Schroepfer: so Apple Vision Pro
was coming out at the beginning of 2024.

So when I was on that treadmill story
that I just told you I was excited to

say, Hey, what if what I was looking at,
was the candlesticks of the stock chart.

So instead of looking at them
left to right, I'm looking at them

from front to back of the room.

coming at me, each candlestick,
one after another, scrolling by me

causing my treadmill to go up or down.

own a Pelle and tread.

They're fantastic.

I'm not being paid to say that.

I love the game that they
created called Lane Break.

Lane Break says if you press this
button and do away with our liability

as a company, we're gonna move
the treadmill up and down for you.

So that you can just hopefully have
your body keep up with an increase

in pace on the treadmills moving
or the incline moving up and down.

Well, what if I thought, what if
I could be able to ride out this

algorithm of the workout of the stock
chart and have it put into a Peloton

treadmill or bike and have the bike
be forcing me to exert the effort?

That the stock was doing as
it's going through day after

day of the 252 days in a year.

I found a great team at Valeri Solutions
in Edina, Minnesota, and they were able to

put together this immersive experience of
a stock chart being in your spatial realm

you're wearing this, sadly too expensive
device for too many people to own.

But it is a beautiful, immersive
experience where you just pick the stock.

The algorithm does its magic of breaking
down whatever number of days you want.

Typically a calendar year or the last
12 months into a workout, breaking

down the open to the low, into your
warmup, the low to the high, into a

bunch of sprints and recoveries, and
then a cool down from the high to the

close, and it can pair that with music,
read it, can pair that with music.

As you're doing a bike equivalent of the
treadmill workout, you're getting an RPM.

anyone that knows music knows that double
the RPM and you get a beats per minute.

That's why spin studios and cycle
classes have been so popular because

they found a way to embrace what we
all universally love, which is music.

So I can give you a five, seven,
or nine song playlist for any

stock using this algorithm.

As long as I tap into your playlist
and your library, it would find the

songs that you like that are of that
length that fits the segmentation of

the workout at a beats per minute of.

This segment that you're doing at one
time with a song that you already like,

'cause it's in your playlist anyway.

So to

Reed Hansen, MarketSurge: Wow.

Andy Schroepfer: an immersive
beauty unifying of math and music.

So I love it and I hope all of your
viewers can have an experience with it.

The SW e.co

stock workout exchange co.

Reed Hansen, MarketSurge: Dot co.

Okay.

And so they can, they can purchase
through, through that site or.

Andy Schroepfer: access on getting to the
Vision Pro App Store is not necessarily

that easy, so we've made it a little
easier by just putting it on our homepage.

So you can find the videos of
me wearing these glasses and

seeing what I see out of it.

You'd get a 2D experience of
a four dimensional experience

inside of that headsets.

So if you have one, I
recommend this app strongly.

Reed Hansen, MarketSurge: That's,
no, that sounds fantastic.

So, you know, great is a very
immersive experience for those that

are maybe a little less experienced
than a professional stock analyst.

But do, do you think it
applies beyond that field?

Do you think like pros would,
would enjoy this as well?

Do you think that would help?

Andy Schroepfer: as a guest on your
show if I didn't have more for you.

Reed Hansen, MarketSurge: Yeah.

Andy Schroepfer: the, pen
ultimate of wall Street Research.

So I was an analyst at Goldman
Sachs at the leading up to the peak.

And at the peak starting its
way down in the year 2000, no

one wanted to deal with anymore.

just said the stock's going down.

The selling was all happening because
that money was made out of other

trades that were now going south.

Anyway, the, the market was just feeling
the energy of it going down, so it

didn't matter what I said matter what
press release company came out with.

Didn't matter that they beat
earnings, it was just going down.

So what was at odds here is that
the charts technical analysis is

forever the, it's so important because
people do good fundamental analysis.

Fundamental analysis should win
over a technical analysis, but the

algorithms are doing the thinking.

They trust the people are doing
the math and the fundamentals.

So if I can marry fundamental
research with technical

analysis, I have gold for Street.

And so as I break down stock
charts into workouts, it doesn't

care whether earnings happen.

It just cares whether people bought
or sold the stock on those earnings.

Today, Palantir reported.

Other companies reported and
their stocks are going down.

Hims being an example.

Hims is a stock I've owned and
made a double on so far, but

today it's having a down 11% day.

Palantir's having an 11% update might say,
Andy, why can you be so happy with that?

Because HIMSS is taken a break while
I'm adding more, and Palantir is one

that I'm trimming on the top and HIMSS
is gonna go catch up while Palantir

takes a break, I can then sell that.

If you can manage trading, you're
finding a way to listen to.

Trading technical analysis by
using this algorithm of a workout.

then if you could take the smart
fundamental researchers and have them

opine on the 10% down move or the 50%
up move, where the research is helpful

for you to go listen and catch up on.

What did a company do?

Well, they issued 18
press releases last year.

I don't care which ones did it move on.

That was the news that was, tell
me the story about that 20% move

and I can now marry in instead of
a song for that workout segment.

I can marry in a fundamental research
opinion about what actually happened.

It was that Apple came up with this new
feature for their photography part of

their iPhone that made people get rid
of having the expensive, big cameras.

Now they can truly trust in
just the iPhone, for example.

But as when you can marry fundamental
research and do it as a, I'm gonna

give you a one minute narrative
for each 10% move of a stock in a

year, I have a 12 minute podcast.

That would be gold.

That's what I look forward to the world of
smart, fundamental people saying, I want

to narrate the stock workouts with Andy
and build a community of stock soundbites.

Reed Hansen, MarketSurge: So piece.

Great.

I love it.

Okay, so now this.

No, that's great.

So this isn't the first financial
education product you've, you've

created, you know, I know you were
showing me you know, a couple that,

that you had in hand that Yeah.

Your Rubik's cube and
what is the cards, right?

Yeah.

So can you talk a little bit about
those, and then I've got a follow

up about how does your mind work and
how do you, how do you make that,

that bridge to, you know something
totally different than than stocks.

Andy Schroepfer: thanks for
the compliment in there.

It, it's been interesting to me over
my professional life seeing how how

many people are afraid of money, and
that manifests in so many different

ways for so many different reasons.

But when it comes to just
talking about stocks.

What stock do you like?

Re if I were to ask you that
question, most people pause.

Most people don't have a go-to
stock that they think of.

And then I started asking

Reed Hansen, MarketSurge: Right.

Andy Schroepfer: is your company
that you work for Public?

I don't know.

There's a whole bunch of fast food
companies that are privately held, and

there's a whole bunch that are part of
big chains, like Yum Brands and PE is

Reed Hansen, MarketSurge: Yes.

Andy Schroepfer: Some
people don't know that.

Some people don't know that
the Lyft is also public.

Some people don't know that states
are trying to create their own Uber.

It's fascinating to me.

So if people don't know where to
start, I figured if one cube, if

this one Rubik's Cube was one stock.

And I put them all together.

If I put 27 of them together,
I'd make a Rubik's Cube.

And if you look at a Rubik's Cube long
enough, realize that there's only one

sticker on the center of any side.

But on the corners there are three.

On every corner, there's three, and on
the edges there's two that are visible.

Fascinating, right?

Boring as heck to some

Reed Hansen, MarketSurge: Right.

Andy Schroepfer: I look at this,
on one face of a cube, you have

one company, two companies, three
companies, a total of six centers.

how many trillion dollar
companies there are?

Reed?

There are nine.

When I built the cube, there

Reed Hansen, MarketSurge: Wow.

Andy Schroepfer: and depending on how the
market likes Tesla these days, some days

it's below a trillion Berkshire Hathaway.

Even now that Warren Buffet stepped
down, he's below a trillion,

so we're now down to seven.

Either way, there are roughly six to nine.

That can be a center sticker.

The corners, again, there are
eight corners on a Rubik's cube,

there are three visible stickers.

Eight times three is 24.

How many companies are above $235 billion?

2024.

So I

Reed Hansen, MarketSurge: 24.

Wow.

Andy Schroepfer: of the
trillion dollar companies.

I can get all 24 of the
ones above two 35 billion.

And then I still have 12 spots left
on the Rubik's Cube that each show two

stickers so I can show 24 more stocks.

As I looked at the 10 people that have
been around more than 10 years as a

public company and have outperformed
all the other 3,600 stocks in the stock

market, I was able to put 24 other
stocks on this, and I represent 70% of

the stock market on this Rubik's cube.

Reed Hansen, MarketSurge: Wow.

Andy Schroepfer: So then you say,
give it to your kid, give it to your

dog, play with it, throw it around.

Any side that you have is gonna be
roughly 10% of the total market cap.

The mark stock market of the US
stocks 3,600 stocks is $65 trillion.

add in $1 trillion up to $4 trillion
company in the center, you get

700 billion, 400 billion, 200
billion, 50 billion, 10 billion.

Your face of this cube
will be less than 6.5

trillion, almost any configuration.

Why does that matter?

It's not because of the 10%
that a stock wants to go up.

It's because Warren Buffet has 88% of
Berkshire Hathaway, 88% in 10 stocks.

Guess how his 10

Reed Hansen, MarketSurge: Oh.

Andy Schroepfer: fan up?

He owns Apple.

That's his trillion dollar stock.

his largest position.

Express, Oxy Petroleum, Moody's.

Verisign.

He's got stocks that fit on one
face of this cube, and he is

got 10 stocks that represent 80.

Why doesn't anyone want to say, I can
understand nine stocks said, whoa, I got

full-time job, got four kids, 18 going
to college, whatever it is, I'm too busy.

Well, how about five?

You can make five stocks out
of this using the center and

either making an X or a plus.

You're still gonna come up with something
close to eight or 9% of the market.

You're still close.

If you can't.

Comprehend managing.

What did Amazon do this week
through in the My Center?

What's in Meta Doing this week?

What's Nvidia doing this week?

Following, if you turn on news of any
kind, you're gonna talk about some

political policy that impacts chips from
NVIDIA or AI related to chat GPT and

the fight with perplexity and Google.

You're gonna hear and have a firsthand
opinion of which one feels too weird or

which one is actually changing the world.

able to follow a couple others
like, oh, Eli Lilly salesforce.com,

Accenture, Netflix, Costco.

You're able to follow five of these, pick
your X or pick your plus, and you have

five stocks that I think makes investing
super fun and super approachable.

But, oh wait,

Reed Hansen, MarketSurge: Yeah.

Andy Schroepfer: that's
a kid's toy, right?

No.

Trump's administration is giving out
a thousand dollars to every newborn.

There's 4 million new newborns every year.

4 million people are gonna get the
chance to get out of their own way.

Let the stock index do
a great thing for them.

the s and p 500 is gonna mimic one
this entire cube and it will go up.

Your job with your money that you, as
you watch your newborns, a thousand

dollars grow exponentially over 18 years.

You can go take out your Rubik's cube,
pick your five, or pick your nine

and be able to invest on your own.

wait, there's mo.

So I call them capital Cards, but the
real name for 'em is Texas Trade them.

These are also available@thesw.co.

you think about the cards, they blackjack
with them, but you can also put them into

things that used to hold your sports cards
and make them be a face of a Rubik's cube.

So there are 26 visible
stickers on a Rubik cube.

I gave you the example of where
you're doing three in each

corner and two on each edge.

But if you just did one for each
corner and have eight instead of 24,

becomes your face of a Rubik cube.

got your trillion dollar company here,
700 billion or less, 400 billion or less,

300 billion or less, 200 billion or less,
a hundred billion or less, 50 billion or

less, 30 billion or less, 10 billion or
less, and you have your same 10% of the

market as I'm dealing out these cards.

It's not just one game, it's not
just a fancy, pretty set of cards.

got the stock workouts on the back,

so you

Reed Hansen, MarketSurge: Oh, nice.

Andy Schroepfer: the workout by just
knowing the watts of each of the 10%

movements going up and down during
the course of each calendar year.

Fascinating, fun math.

I'm doing too many sales promotions
here, but the point of playing the

cards as I'm dealing these out, the
trillion dollar stocks are kings.

$800 billion.

JP Morgan is a queen, and you
go down the market cap layers.

When you get to the twos, you're talking
about $10 billion companies in less like

a Peloton or a Lifetime Fitness, you're
getting stocks of the entire cap range.

So as you're getting a blackjack
with an ace, it's a big company with

a 10, another big company of 21,
but the game doesn't stop at 21.

you don't bust on 21 with the same cards,
you have a two stock portfolio of some

combination that's approximating 21.

You take another card 'cause you're
on your way to 25 for game two,

and the goal is if you don't bust
over 25, third round is what's your

portfolio return from the past week.

You get a chance to draw your fifth card
if you don't have five cards yet, you

take those five cards as five stocks.

They each are 20% of your portfolio.

Compare it to the return those stocks
had in the past week and you see if

you beat the s and p with your hand or
against the people that you're playing.

Reed Hansen, MarketSurge: Oh, cool.

Andy Schroepfer: So 21, 25, 23 0.5%

'cause that's what the s and p
returned last year and the year before.

23 point half percent.

I love

Reed Hansen, MarketSurge: Wow,

Andy Schroepfer: Re I love prime numbers.

Reed Hansen, MarketSurge: that's awesome.

Well, fantastic.

So, okay, now these are tremendous
tools and I think extremely engaging

for people to learn about stocks and
about, you know, how the markets work.

I.

I, I would be interested, a lot of
my, a lot of people in my audience

are entrepreneurs themselves, and
I think you've done a, a great job

of showing us an example of how
you take, like your mission-driven

you know, venture here, educate.

You know, educate the population, but
you've created a great experience.

Now, I, I'd like to emphasize like,
whenever you can whatever business

you're in is create a great experience.

Now, how, how did you think through these?

How did the, like you're, you're
doing this, you're, you're churning

out these ideas, which is great.

What, what's the creative process
that you can design these experiences?

I mean, I, I, I could totally
see myself using each of these.

And, you know, people that run, I
think, you know, that's like, it's

very attractive to them, you know, like
just some variety and, and a chance to

learn while I, while they're running.

People that play cards,
you know, same thing.

Or people that play with puzzles.

Now what, what is your
creative process like?

Andy Schroepfer: I could
see numbers in anything.

Reed Hansen, MarketSurge: Hmm.

Andy Schroepfer: God blessed me with
the ability to do multiplication

tables faster than my teacher back
when I was in early elementary school.

And praise that anyone gets for
something that you do well as a kid.

Likely becomes something that's
nurtured throughout your life

because you invest time in it.

I invested a ton of time in
understanding numbers in a crazy degree.

Some of my favorite movies
all have to do with numbers.

Like The Trillion Game.

If you haven't seen that on Netflix
or the eight block that's now on

Netflix, there's there's Prime Target.

All of everything that relates to Prime
Numbers unlocks some mystery of old times.

And it's proving to be true.

So finding a way to make that into
money though is your question.

So I have a passion for doing this,
and if I never made a dime from this

my wife would be very disappointed.

But I would be so happy as I am almost
every day waking up and dealing with

it's showing this to your audience, for
example, Reed, this is a joy to be here.

I mean,

Reed Hansen, MarketSurge: Yeah.

Andy Schroepfer: it's a great

Reed Hansen, MarketSurge: Yeah.

Thank you.

Andy Schroepfer: people to see it.

But I've spent 18 months now
trying to figure out what is the

way to make money through these.

I found that trying to send these
shipping them, it's too expensive.

too expensive to go
send this through mail.

'cause you can buy one of these at.

Target Walmart anywhere
for seven, eight bucks.

So why would you wanna
pay 2350 for one of these?

For me to have tack on six 50 shipping?

Even these cards, shipping, these are
six 50 because that's the cheapest.

You can ship something
in individual quantities.

So making these into a digital thing,
if this were a PDF that you could print

out at home, cut the cards yourself,
you gotta do a little craft work.

But I can find ways thanks to the
digital economy and with AI to make

these all its approachable experiences
at much smaller price points.

But what I'd really like to do is have
the companies that are these stocks, want

to invest in bringing the experience of
the hard work of their employee base.

a fun Rubik's cube game with their kids
to a fun card game with their friends.

I believe there's a way for there to be a
larger amount of money from a B2B sale but

it wasn't in expecting the world to go buy
these $3,500 Apple Vision Pro headsets.

And getting into the gaming world, I
have a metaverse called Stock Tube.

Stock tu it's a Belgian domain name,
but if you wanna play it free on

your phone right now, stock Tutu, be
you get to go into a stock version

like Disney World for stock charts.

Your terrain is going up and down
and falling off a stock that's at

like Palantir today at $99 a share.

And you may jump to the ground and try
to get back on it and get it to 200.

That's super fun to me and it's
super fun to a couple hundred people.

But finding a way I have to go make
that nasty and the traders are coming

after you and the short sellers and
the politicians are coming after you.

That's what I'll have to add to the
game to make more money off of it.

And it's finding that fine
line, I think is the long-winded

way to get to your punchline.

Finding out

Reed Hansen, MarketSurge: Yeah.

Andy Schroepfer: willing to
sacrifice in terms of pure happiness.

To be able to pay bills
as well along the way.

And that's not necessarily
easy all the time.

The world wants Nest.

Sydney Sweeney, beautiful, very
talented lady, saw her at the

shooting range on some clips.

The range of her talents
is beyond her beauty.

By far.

Her beauty is what's getting her
a lot of advertising campaigns,

and I wish her all the best.

And since I own him stock that I
mentioned earlier, obviously for their ed.

Medication.

They would love to see Sydney
Sweeney be a poster child for their

wonderful stock and wonderful company.

Anyway, that's a whole funny aside,
but it's adding in those elements to

go find out what is the newborn kid
chewing on a Rubik's cube that might

be the best portfolio of five stocks
that anyone's ever found and 'cause

they left their teeth mark in it.

You're gonna remember
which side it was on.

It's a great question and I haven't
cracked the code or I would be,

anyway, I'd be Mark Andreessen and
Ben Horowitz, who I was blessed to

get to know when I was at Goldman
bringing LoudCloud and Opsware public.

But anyway, the, I've found
a place of happiness in math.

I found a place of happiness through
bringing these two very approachable

products, and I just hope more people
get to experience 'em, because coming up

next read is football, P-H-I-T-B-A-L-L.

We're gonna have fantasy football

Reed Hansen, MarketSurge: Wow.

I love it.

I love it.

I'm a big, fancy football guy, and I
am, I, you have to keep me updated.

Maybe we'll have you back on to just
talk about that when you're ready and

Andy Schroepfer: It'll be

Reed Hansen, MarketSurge: you know,
and, and probably like what's your,

what's your timeframe for that?

Andy Schroepfer: have it out.

I'm going to the preseason
opener for the Vikings.

I don't hold out Super

Reed Hansen, MarketSurge: Okay.

Andy Schroepfer: for them this
year, but they play on the ninth.

So I'll be look for football,
P-H-I-T-B-A-L l.com.

point of the game, here's the teaser.

You expect your wide receiver,
you're likely gonna pick

Chase if you have the chance.

You're gonna expect him to get
touchdowns like crazy every

quarter of every game this season.

He won't, but you'll expect him to.

You'll want your stock that trades five
days, most weeks, four days a week.

Sometimes you want your stock
to do a couple things right?

You want it to have a higher, high every
day, and I'll leave the rest of the

Reed Hansen, MarketSurge: Hmm.

Andy Schroepfer: details.

To your imagination, but I would love to
be back and explain that one in full too.

These are as seen on
TV as seen on read tv.

Reed Hansen, MarketSurge: No, I mean, I,
I'm serious and, and I think, you know,

right, right in line with the start of the
season, maybe in a month or two, I think

that would be right on, right on target.

So, but Andy, this, this is so great.

So interesting.

You know, I'd love to pick your
brain and, and you know, I feel like

I've learned a lot just from our
conversation where you, you said your

website, can you say it one more time?

I'm gonna include it in the show
notes, but I'd like to know make sure

our audience knows where they can
get these products, connect with you,

Andy Schroepfer: Absolutely.

Absolutely.

So, thes w.co,

the stock workout exchange.co.

the metaverse that I mentioned
is stock tube, it's S-T-O-C-K-T.

That is your place to
go play the Metaverse.

There's a whole bunch of other ones,
but one other I'll leave you with

again is football, P-H-I-T-B-A-L l.com.

Look for that to be live this

Reed Hansen, MarketSurge: Awesome.

Andy Schroepfer: or already
live if you're watching

Reed Hansen, MarketSurge: Alright.

Andy Schroepfer: But
Reed, I'll mention quick.

Reed Hansen, MarketSurge: Alright.

Andy Schroepfer: of you that haven't
heard of market surge before.

I found them because I went, I saw
a stock chart that had market surge

in the upper right, and that happens
to be a market surge brand inside of

investors' Business Daily that does
beautiful charts that look like they're

on their way to doing stock workouts.

So if anyone from Investors'
Business Daily sees this or knows

them, I do wanna meet them as well.

But it did get me this beautiful
opportunity to meet Reed and all of you.

So market is.

Reed Hansen, MarketSurge:
Well, you know, that's.

You know, that is the best thing I've
gotten outta sharing a name with the

you know, financial analysis platform.

And I am so glad that we met,
you know, thank you, Andy.

And you know, it was, we had a meeting set
up, as you said, and, and you know, right

off the bat, I'm like, babe I get a sense
from your background that you were looking

for something else, but turned out to be
like an, a great networking opportunity

and you know, I've learned so much.

Thank you, Annie.

Andy Schroepfer: percent.

Thanks so much, Reed.

Best of luck to market surge.

Reed Hansen, MarketSurge: Thank you.

Same to you.

Andy Schroepfer: Thank you.

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