Inside Marketing with MarketSurge

Welcome to Inside Marketing
With Market Surge.

Your front row seat to the
boldest ideas and smartest

strategies in the marketing game.

Your host is Reed Hansen, chief
Growth Officer at Market Surge.

Reed: Welcome back to Inside
Marketing with Market Surge.

Today's guest is someone who doesn't
just talk about clarity and confidence.

She lives it.

I'm joined by Elizabeth Masai, a national
speaker, author, mindset coach, and

the voice behind elizabeth masai.com.

She helps women and really anyone
feeling stuck and men, uh, as we,

uh, just talked about, uh, get out
of survival mode and step into a life

filled with purpose, direction, and joy.

Elizabeth's story is as powerful as her
mission from the challenges of burnout

and identity loss to building a life
rooted in faith, clarity, and conviction.

She's on a mission to equip others
with the tools to stop living

small and start showing up fully.

Whether you're building a business,
navigating a big life pivot, or trying

to break free from the mental clutter
holding you back, this conversation

will light a fire under you.

Let's dive in with Elizabeth Masai.

Elizabeth Mahusay: I love it.

That's awesome.

Thank you so much, Reid.

Appreciate it.

Reed: My pleasure.

I, I did have a little assist
from, uh, chat GPT in consolidating

a few different, uh, sources.

But, um, I mean, I think it was a,

Elizabeth Mahusay: I was gonna
say, I literally was thinking, I

don't think it says that exactly
on my website, but anyway, so, but

Reed: so, no, I,

Elizabeth Mahusay: well, that's it.

That, so that's why you
asked me about that.

'cause depending on the videos that you're
watching, I do a lot of women's bible

studies, which is, which is very focused
in that, um, space on the business side.

I, I do both, so,

Reed: and,

Elizabeth Mahusay: yeah.

Reed: though Chad GPT initially thought
you were the coach for women, um, you, you

told me that you work with a lot of men

Elizabeth Mahusay: Yeah, a
lot of men, yes, for sure.

Reed: Well, fantastic.

So this is, um, the first time that
my audiences, um, heard from you.

And I would love if you could tell
us a little bit about what led

you to this kind of work and, um,
you know, like how you got here.

Elizabeth Mahusay: Sure.

The CliffNotes version is
when I was in high school.

I took a special honors chemistry class
and it was, it was very challenging.

I was a new girl at.

The school I'd moved there in my, at
the beginning of my sophomore year.

So the short of it is, it was very
difficult for me and our teacher, Mr.

Waters, who I'm still in close contact
with today, uh, met with me for weeks, an

hour before school started to basically
help me get my feet under me and he lit a

fire under me, which led me to go and get
a chemistry degree and teach chemistry.

Um, both in an inner city, public
school and in a large homeschool

cooperative, uh, for 10 years.

And so that's really.

The initial place where I saw
the value of what one human can

do for someone who wants help.

When you make yourself available
for that to happen and you leverage

who you are, the knowledge that
you have, and, and you have a, the

ability to help that person learn.

So that, that's really where my fire.

Came from in helping other people.

So I, I went to school,
I got a chemistry degree.

I taught chemistry, and then I joined
the, i, I joined the sales force

because I wanted to raise our boys.

Um, so when we had our two sons, I
started working from home, uh, so that I

could call myself a work from home mom.

And that was in the
direct sales space and.

You know, direct sellers are independent.

They don't work for you.

So you have to develop
followership by good leadership.

And that's where I learned to
develop my leadership, develop

people, develop leaders.

And so for 19 years, I worked with
hundreds and hundreds and hundreds

of individuals building businesses
and hundreds of leaders, both

locally, regionally, and nationally.

And that's, uh, and alongside
of building our Fred Shots

photography business as well.

So just have a real passion for people,
whether they're entrepreneurs or business

owners, or executives to assist them in,
in living the life that they want to live.

I, I believe you can have both success.

You can have success in your business
life and your family life when

you choose to manage them well.

Reed: Uh, that's a great story and I'm
glad, um, glad that you're giving back.

You know, you've obviously had
that, that, that clarity come into

your life and the balance and, you
know, that's, that's tremendous.

Um.

You know, and, and I don't know if we
talked about this, uh, before, but, um,

my, my wife runs a photography studio and,

Elizabeth Mahusay: You did tell me.

Yeah, you did.

Reed: but also, uh, another thing
in common is she has a degree

in, um, in education as well,
and, uh, worked as a teacher.

And I, I do say that in the business
world, never sleep on the teachers,

the trained teachers, you know, they.

They tend to really thrive and, and,
uh, it's, it's a kind of an underrated

skill that that turns into a lot

Elizabeth Mahusay: Oh,

Reed: success.

Elizabeth Mahusay: it, it definitely can.

I believe it prepares you well for.

Managing, um, managing a business,
but specifically in how you manage.

People that help build a business, uh,
because there are, there are just some

great skill sets that come with being an
effective, an effective classroom teacher.

And not everyone, there are a
lot of people who become teachers

and they're not necessarily
super effective in the classroom.

Uh, but the ones who are really effective
in the classroom, I see those as directly

translatable into a lot of different areas
of success out in the business world.

Reed: Yeah.

And, and that's been
my experience as well.

I, I, you know, sometimes wish my teaching
skills were stronger because e even in

my current role, I'm, I'm finding that I.

a lot of the value I offer my clients
is conveying information or expertise

and, and, uh, to be able to do that
concisely is, is hard to do sometimes.

Elizabeth Mahusay: It's a skill.

I mean, it's a, it's a learnable, it's
a learnable, trainable, teachable skill.

Uh, it does, it, it
does make a difference.

I agree.

Reed: So, so let's talk a little bit
about the, the kinds of training you do.

Um,

Elizabeth Mahusay: Sure.

Reed: what do you think.

Uh, you know, when we talk about people
with potential, you know, I, I think

we all have our own kinds of potential.

but why do you think so many people feel
overwhelmed or unsure or directionless?

Like, what, why do you,
why do you think that is?

Elizabeth Mahusay: They lack vision.

That's, I mean, right away, you
know, I believe the proverb,

without vision, the people perish.

Another way of saying it is
without vision, the people

cast off restraint, right?

If we don't know where we're
headed, what we are wanting.

Um, we, we can be distracted by
the shiny object or the squirrel,

whichever you want to use.

Uh, we will give up more quickly than
we otherwise would because when, when

we lack vision, that also means we
lack understanding of the milestones

needed to get to said vision.

And that's where it's, you
know, it's like driving.

On, you know, route 66 through the
western part of our country where

it's just miles and miles and miles
of nothing but road and with no

towns or markers or those things.

And it, you can feel
like I'm going nowhere.

And I think people give up way
too quickly when they lack vision.

So that's, that's really one
of the biggest, um, that's

one of the biggest things.

The other thing that
I would say is that I.

We have been developing in our culture,
this sense of instant gratification,

I should be able to get it right now.

Success should happen right now and
we often lose the, we lose touch with

the reality that work is necessary
and not only is work necessary,

but consistent work is necessary.

And, and, and that's really why I am
passionate about coaching because.

Oftentimes, it's not that someone
doesn't know what they want, it's

that they're not doing what they
need to do to get what they want.

And coaching can help bring that
accountability to assist someone

in not only clarity of vision,
milestones to get to the vision, but

then the accountability to meet the
milestones that get you to the vision.

Reed: Okay.

Now, and so to drill in a little
bit on the vision, so if they're

lacking the vision, you know, what,
how do you get that, you know, how

do you, um, you know, some of this
indecisiveness is a lot like, I don't

know what, I don't know what I want.

You know, like what, um,
how do you develop that?

Elizabeth Mahusay: I agree.

I think there are a lot of people that
are like, I'm not really sure what I want.

Um, there's a, there's
a variety of ways to.

There are a variety of ways to get there.

What I have found to be really,
really effective is getting people

to, and whether you choose to go
the Simon Sinek seven degrees of y

where you're really drilling down,
um, you know, this is what I want.

Why do you want that, and why do
you want that, and why do you want

that, and why do you want that?

I mean, it, it really forces you to
drill down to the core foundation.

Of what do you really want?

Right, and, and then that allows you,
that can become a firm foundation

from which to build vision.

Now, one way to do that, some people
don't really relate well to asking why.

So it can become more of asking
questions like, what do you want to have?

Where do you want to go?

Um, what people inspire you.

Uh, what do you want your children
to say about you when they're older?

Uh, and that was important, like
as an example to use that, that

was important for my husband and I.

We wanted our boys to be able to say
that we had the flexibility and freedom

to be present, especially once they
hit middle school and high school.

And, and, and so our decisions were
guided by what allows us to be present.

How can we build businesses and have
success and also be present for our

young men, because now they're grown
adults and we can make decisions however

we wanna make decisions, you know?

Uh, but so that's part, part of it.

It's the questions that
you're asking yourself.

To get to that place, whether they're
why questions or what questions, uh,

it allows someone to really drill down.

Another way to get there is a lot of
people will use a swot, you know, looking

at strengths, weaknesses, opportunities,
and threats, which helps 'em to

assess, here's where I am right now.

And then from that they will build.

How do I want to?

Retool or refocus my vision
going forward as a result,

Reed: Interesting.

Elizabeth Mahusay: um, of the
opportunities that are there or the

threats that need to be addressed.

That's a, that's probably what
I would call a more tactical

approach, you know, to it.

Um, but it's, it's all around the
questions that we're asking ourselves.

And I'm a firm believer
in you need a visual.

So to my right, it's, it's not like I
can turn my camera over there, but, you

know, that's where my vision board exists.

And so visually I can see every day
what are key aspects that are moving me

towards what I'm wanting to accomplish.

Reed: So you touched on some, uh, some
interesting things I wanna follow up on.

So first, um, I love the use of the SWOT
analysis for like your personal vision.

You know, I know it's

Elizabeth Mahusay: Mm-hmm.

Reed: for like a business or a new
product or, or, or something like that.

And I.

uh, apply that to yourself.

You know, understand your own
strengths, your own weaknesses,

and then opportunities that are out
there and, and threats or obstacles.

So that's, that's tremendous.

Um, the, but the, the next thing
I wanted to ask about was, um,

you do seem to take a very, um.

You know, you refer to like,
questions and self examinations.

Is that, does that help describe
the, your approach in coaching?

Like, do, do you encourage
your, um, clients?

I, I don't wanna use
the right term clients.

Elizabeth Mahusay: Clients.

Clients is correct.

Yep.

Reed: your clients to do a
lot of self-questioning to,

uh, understand themselves and

Elizabeth Mahusay: It's

Reed: goals?

Elizabeth Mahusay: most, most of
my clients are leaders of some

kind, whether it's a small team or
a large team, whether they're, uh,

managing half a million or billions.

Right?

Um, that the, the theme is very common.

Uh, I literally, I need
to create a t-shirt.

Ask over, tell.

And, and the same is true of the
questions that we need to ask ourselves.

You know, I explain to, uh, to anyone
in, in a good coaching relationship, it

is not about me telling you what to do.

You already likely know
exactly what to do.

You just need help getting there.

You need help uncovering it.

And it true, it is, it is very true.

People will believe a little bit of what.

You say, in this case, what I might
say as a coach, they'll believe

almost a hundred percent of what
comes out of their own mouth.

So for me it's about the questions that
I ask that bring them to that place.

Like take for example, a gentleman
earlier who was looking at a risk

analysis and the way he defined
high risk was it would generate an

immediate emergency, and I said.

What does immediate emergency mean?

And he, so he starts giving me some
additional, and I said, is it possible

that your definition of immediate
emergency is different than someone

else's on your team's definition?

He goes, oh yeah, good point.

So then we drill down on what,
what is in your head that

defines immediate emergency?

Because otherwise everyone
is going to interpret that

potentially very differently.

And so it's a, a lot about asking
the questions that help people

to come to self-realization.

It's actually something that I say
to myself every single day, um, in

my, I look over here 'cause I keep
a copy of it, uh, on my, um, board.

I ask great questions that
cause my clients to engage in

self-realization and problem solving.

That's, that is my focus.

Reed: yeah, that's great.

Um, the, the, the final thing
I wanted to ask you about your

earlier comment is you mentioned
the power of, uh, visualization and.

Having, uh, visual reminders, a little
bit more about that and, and maybe how you

use it and how you, you could recommend
that those would be, uh, employed in,

know, like an office setting or wherever.

Elizabeth Mahusay: Yes.

Okay.

So I'm super passionate about this because
let's first lay the, let's first lay the

foundation of visualization is because
the brain thinks in pictures, right?

So if I were to ask you, Reid, who
do you know that is a business owner?

Likely your brain is going to be, again,
sifting through the thousands of people

that you know that you've engaged, and it
will present to you from your subconscious

to your conscious a face because your
brain thinks in pictures, it's not likely

for most people that they would see the
words business owner to identify a name.

It just so we think in pictures.

So visualization is incredibly
powerful because it allows you to

work with the power of your brain.

That's number one.

Secondly, when we know that, and now
we work alongside of it, being able to

create that picture helps us to be more
focused because, for example, on my.

On my board, I have 12 paid speaking gigs.

'cause I wanna do one every single month.

Right.

So because I see that visual and
the picture that I have connected

to those words is me on a stage
where I was paid last year.

I.

But when I visualize that, it reminds
me that in order for that to become

a reality in 2025, I've gotta put
in the work to submit proposals to

do the things necessary for that.

But I literally picture
myself on stages delivering.

Whether it's training
or keynotes, et cetera.

So it it, but in doing so, you
are activating what's called

the reticular activation system.

So that means when I'm out and about,
I'm talking with someone and maybe

they say something like, someone
texted me earlier this week, I'm

really busy with this event, and
immediately, what does my brain do?

Opportunity, speaking opportunity.

And so I texted her and
said, Hey, you know what?

I would love to be, have my name, uh,
fit, find out how I can submit my name

to be on your speaker list for next year.

She goes, oh, that's really good to know.

She knows me.

She knows I speak, but she
hasn't thought about it.

So that's the value of so many, there's
so many aspects of visualization,

but those are some of the key ones.

I tell people you experience this
all the time, buy a new vehicle.

What do you see on the road everywhere?

Your same vehicle, different
color, different year.

You never really noticed it
before until you owned that

very make model of that vehicle.

That's your re that's, that's your
reticular activation telling you.

See that.

You're going to see that.

You're going to see that.

It's incredibly powerful,
incredibly powerful.

All your elite athletes have
visualized every aspect of what they

do with their body, with their mind
prior to going into competition.

Reed: That is fantastic.

And if that's, that's gonna be
my number one takeaway from our

conversation today and, and something
I'm gonna put into practice right away.

That's, that's really great.

Um.

and some, I mean, you know, if you
look at my office, it's just bare,

you know, I don't have anything on the
walls and I need to, uh, you know, my

wife does all our interior decorating
and, um, she's always, know, she's

always, you know, covering our walls
and things and it's, it's great.

But I, um, have this
one room for my office.

like,

Elizabeth Mahusay: Right.

Reed: you can tell.

So.

Elizabeth Mahusay: Well, it's true.

And I will say that like, um, over
here on my wall, I keep a whiteboard

and I have all kinds of things.

I track on that whiteboard.

I track prospects, I track referrals.

I.

I track my, my weight fluctuations.

That's fun.

Hmm.

Um, you know, so there are different
things that I, that I track.

'cause again, the visual is, it,
it's, it's so incredibly impactful

in what we do on a day-to-day basis.

Reed: So, you know, one thing that
emerges, I've done, you know, I've had

my podcast for a few months now, and
I've, um, had a lot of guests, friends,

and other business leaders, and, um, you
know, one thing that sticks out about you,

Elizabeth, is you are incredibly polished.

You have a great, you know,
like speaking presence and, um.

And, and you are doing professional
speaking, uh, gigs as well.

How, how did you refine that skill?

I think that's a skill that a
lot of business, uh, leaders

would like to, uh, have.

You know, maybe there's some anxiety
about the, the public nature of it, but

how do you, how do you cultivate that?

Elizabeth Mahusay: That's,
that's a great question.

Thousands of hours of presentations,
I mean, is the short answer.

I, you know, of course, going to
school to be an educator meant I, I

spent a lot of time in front of people
from, even from my, my college days.

And then of course, as a
teacher, you're spending hours

on end every day presenting.

Uh, and then beyond that, when I
started working from home, I was doing

sales presentations, uh, of different
kinds, and then I was doing training

of the salespeople of that product.

So that's really how it started.

So when they talk about, you know,
10,000 hours allows you to be an

expert in, in any, whether it's
playing an instrument or playing a

sport, or in my case, public speaking.

It's when you've, when you've had so many
reps, it has, it does make a difference.

A couple of things that I would
say that are just super practical.

'cause some people are like, well,
I don't have 10,000 hours to,

you know, to really refine that.

Um, a lot of it is most people neglect
the preparation needed prior to delivery.

When you've done 10,000 hours, you
can get in front of most any camera

and you, you can make it happen.

Right?

And because there are certain skill levels
that you've developed to be able to think

on the fly, how do you articulate that?

There is a discipline in eliminating ums.

And sos and all of the filler words.

That's very disciplined.

Toastmasters is a great way to,
um, to develop that discipline.

But there are some key
things in the preparation.

It's, it's taking the time to
prepare what you're going to say

prior to getting in front of people.

Two, it's figuring out what
allows your brain to help you

articulate most effectively.

And there are, there are
different approaches.

Some people like acrostics, some
people, uh, like starting, you know,

key phrases with the same letter, right?

Or the same type of word.

I mean, there's, there are
ways to approach it that do

allow you to be more polished.

And, and maybe skip the
10,000 hours, right?

You, you can, you can have, you can have
better polish where that's concerned,

but it's one of my most favorite things
when I have a client for a while and

or when I'm interviewing someone on
my podcast, if I hear something that

is worthy of presenting, I will say
that that could be a keynote and then

I'll work with them on how to develop.

The outline, the memory structure,
like how can you memorize it,

deliver it with confidence, how
do you create visuals around it?

That's, it's, it's, that's one of the
fun things that I enjoy doing with, um,

clients, is help them to develop keynotes.

Reed: awesome.

And, and you're, I mean, we're, we're,
uh, there's so many dimensions to you,

but you've written several books as well.

Um,

Elizabeth Mahusay: yes.

Reed: um, how is that process, does that
help your business and your clients?

You know, talk a little bit about
the, the writing aspect of your.

Elizabeth Mahusay: My, my writing
began, uh, years ago when I started

writing women's Bible studies.

That's, that's ultimately, and I still
have several unpublished bible studies

that eventually I will get published.

I.

But that's where it started.

So my, um, transform my Thinking,
God, which is a study on the book of

Philippians, and then Mirror Image, which
is a study of the book of Colossians.

Uh, that's, that's where it started.

Does it help my business?

Absolutely, because, uh, well.

Things are changing now with so much AI
and people moving books to publication

much faster because they're leveraging ai.

Um, I do not use AI in
my, uh, in these writings.

That's my other one up here as well.

So, um, but all that to say, there's a
credibility that comes to being able to.

To take your ideas, organize them, make
them readable, and really help move

someone, whether it's to take action,
to have transformation, et cetera.

And now my Pick Your Path, which
is an international bestselling

book, is definitively helpful.

So it's my, what I call my back of house,
specifically my signature keynote, which

is called Pick Your Path, how to Set Your
Mental Autopilot on the Right Course.

It is meant that they hear the
message and then they are able to go.

I want more of that message
and the book helps them to

further implement the message.

And I'm actually working on
the second in that series.

This will be a whole series of books.

I'm working on the next book,
which is 21 Days to Set Your

Leadership on the right course.

It'll still be pick your
path, different color, but.

The books are incredibly helpful.

A couple of things that I tell
people I don't recommend writing

the book to have a business card.

Books are.

Books can be business cards.

I just think if you're going to
write a book, write a book with

the intent to make money on the
book, write a book with strategy.

It's a back of house sale.

It's a way to get you into
different speaking as a speaker.

Having books is very, very beneficial.

Uh, it it also though, I believe it forces
people to elevate their skill level.

Also their, their knowledge level 'cause
to, if you wanna have a good book, there's

a whole process and it really forces you,
it humbles you in so many ways, so many

ways it humbles you and it also allows you
to gain greater clarity in your messaging.

My speaking has benefited from
my writing, and my writing has

benefited from my speaking.

They definitely have a
symbiotic relationship.

Reed: You know, I, I have like a mini, um,
testimonial of ki of what you're saying.

I, not that I have, um,
written a book, but, um, I.

You know, I've, I've recently started
a podcast and I've, um, made an

effort to guest on others' podcasts.

And I find I found that this version
of public speaking, uh, has really

helped me refine my business approach.

And, uh, you know, I just have so
much more clarity on the things people

ask about, the things that people.

Apparently care about that.

Maybe I was a little
bit, uh, foreign to me.

So I, you know, learning that in,
in the, what seems like kind of a

high stakes setting, you know, is,
does, does seem to like really stick.

So that's,

Elizabeth Mahusay: It does.

I will tell you one of the best things
that could have ever happened for me

was when there was a shift in that
my previous business to doing a lot

more online selling and I needed to
do, uh, I did hundreds and hundreds

and hundreds of Facebook lives and
it cured me of it has to be perfect.

Because once you go Facebook Live,
you can't be like, start, stop, edit.

Do it again.

Re.

That does.

No, no.

It's, and that's when I really
gained the ability to just laugh at

myself, to make fun of the errors
or the misspoken words where you're

like, oh, let me take those back.

But I can't, you know, it, it, it
allowed me to really gain an even

greater level of confidence in speaking.

And I'll tell you the first time
I did live a, a live television

spot for Good Morning, Texas.

I.

I had such an adrenaline rush.

I left there and I was like, if I'd have
known about this when I was a teenager,

I likely would've done a different degree

Reed: Yeah.

Elizabeth Mahusay: because I love me.

Some live, um, live spots.

I do, I do the live, think of
it like a, I'm almost like a

live reporter for the Chamber.

We do a trolley tour and
I interview businesses.

So we did this early May.

I interviewed 23 different
business leaders.

In a single day on a Facebook Live.

Um, if, if your viewers wanna
go to McKinney chamber.com

and look up the trolley
tour, they'll see it.

But, but again, to your point,
even on a podcast, you, you

don't, you don't wanna spend time
like editing every single thing.

So you, it's finding that way
of how can I be authentic?

How can I be, uh, you know, in the
moment and not be so caught up in

everything has to be so perfect.

It, it, it does help
you to develop for sure.

Reed: Yeah.

And, um, no, that's great.

I'm, I'm glad that, you know, you speak
with some authority on these topics 'cause

you've done done this for so long and,
um, I really, I really appreciate the

insight and, and I would point people in
the audience to do the similar exercise.

It's been quite invigorating.

I, I'd say for me, um, so we will,
you know, we're kind of coming up

on time and I didn't wanna take
your whole afternoon, but, um, just

a couple closing questions now.

I know faith is a big part of
your business and, and philosophy

and, and, uh, you know, it
comes in your coaching as well.

How, um.

How do you, you involve faith in
helping people structure their, their

vision and, and get that clarity.

And then I'll have one more
question and then we'll wrap.

Elizabeth Mahusay: Sure.

So I do tell people I am a faith
led, I'm a faith led person, right?

Which means that it's my
approach in everything.

Now, my clients do not
themselves, need to be faith led.

I have.

I have folks that I have been coaching for
years that do not at all, uh, resonate or

connect with any type of faith approach,
and I respect that and I work within that.

But they know that I am right.

So I'm not gonna change who I am.

Um, I don't change my LinkedIn to try
to help people feel better, um, you

know, or to make them less uncomfortable
as long as they can trust that.

I can be respectful of where you are.

I'm gonna be respectful.

I want them to be respectful
of who I am as well.

Um, so there's that For those that
are also faith led, what I do is I

then find out from them, from a vision
standpoint, like, how does faith.

Work into your vision.

For some people, they envision
themselves being very faith filled,

in which case I'll ask permission
to call them to a greater faith.

Right, and which means I, I will ask
questions around that, that will,

that will really challenge them in
that for, there are people who have a

faith foundation that, that's really
not, that's not as important to them.

In their, um, you know, in
where their vision is concerned.

So I really try to gauge by asking
questions, to what extent do you

want to build your faith into
your life and in your business?

And then I will ask them the questions,
hold them accountable in the ways

that assist them in doing that.

Um, but that it, it does go directly
to the vision because it's Who

do you see yourself becoming?

Um, we talk about be, do,
have, who do I want to be?

What do I need to do as a result
of being, and then from doing that,

these are the things I can expect
to have or that I desire to have.

So the be is an important aspect of
where I began to hone in on how do

you want to be as it relates to faith.

And then I'll coach you on what
that looks like going forward.

Reed: Wow, fantastic.

You know, that's, that's
a, that's a great approach.

And you know, I think, you know,
if, if somebody's identified

themselves as a person of faith that.

Um, I think that's totally legitimate
to, to push them in that direction.

You know, that's, it's, um,
you gotta live your life fully.

now, where can people find you if they'd
like to learn more about your services,

engage you as a speaker, or even

Elizabeth Mahusay: Yeah, absolutely.

Reed: I,

Elizabeth Mahusay: If they go
to my website, elizabeth mai.com

I'm assuming you'll probably put
it in the show notes 'cause people

are going, how do you spell that?

But I do have it spelled
here on, on my, um, my name.

But they go to elizabeth mai.com.

Um, they'll be, everything is there.

You can buy my books on my website
or all of the books are available on

Amazon, so they can search my name
on Amazon and find it there as well.

I also have a speaker's landing
page there, which shows.

Uh, my keynote offerings, it sh uh,
there are example videos including my TED

Talk that's on there, the rubber snake
theory, uh, as well as, um, other infor

other pieces of information around that.

So that's really the best place to go.

And then also there is a contact
me opportunity there as well

for, um, for that because.

Someone's, if someone's wanting to explore
maybe a one-on-one coaching opportunity,

I usually schedule a discovery meeting for
us to have more conversation around that.

Reed: Well, tremendous.

So, um, I would encourage
listeners to reach out.

Um, you know, Elizabeth, I.

You can see is, is a, a wealth of
knowledge and uh, you know, I, I think

she could, could definitely add to
a lot of, uh, people's businesses.

I have a lot of clients and, and
people in the audience that are

aspiring coaches or coaches trying
to get a business off the ground.

I think you would be a, a
tremendous coach for them.

So,

Elizabeth Mahusay: Oh, awesome.

I appreciate it.

Thank you for having me on the show.

Reed: My pleasure.

I hope we can, we'll, we can
speak again in the future.

Elizabeth Mahusay: Absolutely.

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